Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg joined The Verge’s deputy editor Alex Heath for an in-depth conversation about the company’s new high-end, mixed reality headset — the $1,499 Quest Pro — and why he isn’t backing down from building the metaverse. Zuckerberg and Heath also talked about the future of social media, why he enjoys “being doubted,” and the growing concerns about TikTok’s Chinese ownership.

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0:00 Intro
0:08 Meta rebrand
7:00 Quest Pro
11:05 Face tracking and privacy
17:13 Quest pricing and sales
18:04 Target audience and use cases
21:20 Hardware strategy and profit
23:15 Microsoft partnership
27:32 Open vs. closed computing ecosystems
31:16 Competition with Apple
33:16 Mobile platforms dynamics
37:07 Metaverse doubts
40:11 TikTok’s impact on social media
46:46 TikTok’s ownership
49:13 Facebook algorithm change – discovery engine vs. MSI
51:10 Future of social media
57:12 Elon Musk buying Twitter

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